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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 4:19 pm
by Dacca
So I was going to attempt nozzle drilling my defender, but cause I've never done this before I don't exactly know how far down to go into the nozzle. also, would the FF benifit from a slightly wider nozzle to the main trigger? I would think so seeing how it is such a small nozzle. I plan on preforming a colossus and CVF later on so it wouldnt hurt to drill it now anyways. any suggestions on drill bit to use on the ff?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:49 pm
by DX
For the Defender, drill about 1/3 of the way into the nozzle. Then saw or sand carefully so the resulting cut is nice and smooth.
For the FF, definately widen the main nozzle. I don't know which size bit to use off the top of my head. Look at it, compare bits to the nozzle, and use common sense. If one is close to the size of the nozzle, then use it.
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 12:27 am
by dragonclass
For my Defender, I used a 3/32" bit(creates 2x stream) and if you have a steady enough hand you'll actually feel when you are past the nozzle getting close to the ball valve. Test this by using a small drill bit to measure the depth. As Duxburian will tell you, bigger bits(large stream vs shot time/distance?) can be used...I just didn't have to saw or sand. As for the FF, isoaker has some pics of the '05 I sold that haven't been put into the gallery yet(along with some others). Additional ideas are also there under dragon-class. My FF, Devestator, SC500, and SC600 have all been bored using a 1/8" drill bit turning the streams into 5x. Good luck, Brad
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Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 6:23 am
by wetmonkey442
Be very careful with the Defender. If you don't do it correctly, the way that Duxburian and dragonclass explained, the result will be a wildly skewed stream. The reason being is that the Defender is air pressure, and compared to some CPS guns, quite weak. Therefore, any damage to the nozzle, and thus the path of the water will alter the performance of the stream more than if you messed up a nozzle drill on a CPS 2100 because there is less power to compensate for the alteration in stream paths caused by a jagged nozzle job.
In my case, I also found the plastic around the nozzle of the Defender to be really soft, and easily over-drilled.
Soak On
Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 9:50 am
by Dacca
Thanks guys, I remember there was an earlier topic about the defender being driller but not the FF. I can't wait to get drilling.
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 11:03 am
by dandoodatrite
Well, your best bet is first of all, doing it by hand with a drill bit. If you do it with a drill, you have a massive chance of making a really bad hole.
Secondly, start with a small drill bit using the normal hole as a guide, then get bigger. Remember, too big and it will drain the water too quickly. I'd say around 4mm is big enough for an extra large hole.
Finally, before drilling, if the nozzle can be screwed off make sure you do that as you can accidentally drill the internals.
I've hand drilled a 1:4 ratio on my new Super Soaker XP 310.
Take a look at my thread 
Posted: Fri Aug 04, 2006 10:34 pm
by dragonclass
More pics of bored nozzles, including the defender and SI MI FF, have been sent. Stand by, Brad
Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 9:38 pm
by dragonclass
All right, everything is up in the gallery under my section "many modded soakers." The CPS1500 and 1000euro are just references, not bored. Enjoy, Brad
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:12 am
by Dacca
watch the double posts. anyways, i used a powerdrill and had no problem. everything went well and all the improvements were well, an improvement
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:38 pm
by isoaker
Dacca wrote:watch the double posts. anyways, i used a powerdrill and had no problem. everything went well and all the improvements were well, an improvement
Posting 1 day apart is not what I'd consider double-posting, especially when new information is being posted. Don't jump too fast at calling down a 'double-post'.
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 9:00 pm
by Dacca
soory about that, i've been gone for a couple of days before that and didnt notice the timestamp. anyways, the biggest improvement was in the defender. I can't remember what i used, either the 3/32" or 1/16th". but the improvement in preformance is awsome. although the diffrence in nozzle size isnt that much to the naked eye, the ~2x stream is a lot more powerful and a better range all together. I recomend it to anyone with a defender.
Re: nozzle drilling
Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 6:07 pm
by dragonclass
And yes, I still can't keep my hands off things: my XL's 14x nozzles. Does pretty good, too short to put one of my laminators in.