Flash Flood Trigger - ^

Post by **isoaker** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 10:54 am

Surprisingly, I didn't see a thread on this though I know it's been talked about before.

Anyhow, seems like the trigger (for the normal nozzle) on my Flash Flood has given up and is now stuck open. I'll be opening it up in the next couple of days and attempt to fix it. Will post up pics and results once I've got more to talk about.

Post by **Wild Boys** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 11:15 am

That's a shame. I wonder when it will happen to my Flash Flood. Nobody knows. Good luck in fixing.

Post by **isoaker** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 4:00 pm

For those who have opened up their Flash Flood, any tips or recommendations before I go ahead and open up mine? Just curious if anyone found any good methods for dealing with the nozzle caps or found out (the hard way) that certain parts are particularly fragile when opening.

Post by **Some Guy** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:22 pm

try using the rubber band "silent trigger" mod.
As for opening it it is pretty easy once you get past the pump cap. On mine i just tugged really hard (bad idea) but half came unglued anyways. On my sister's though i just mod it with the pump cap on. The nozzle caps come off easily, but can be put back on.

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Post by **isoaker** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:27 pm

Yo, "Some Guy", welcome to the forums and thanks for your tips! I'll be trying to open up my Flash Flood tonight and will keep those things in mind while I pop apart the shell. I figure it'll probably the MAx-D trigger problem others have noted in the past. In the meantime, I should remember to grab a couple of rubber bands for the fix.

Post by **Some Guy** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 5:39 pm

FFs apparently aren't very durable but are realitively easy to fix. For some strange reason the internals seem pretty strong. I froze the check valve on one and the only reason i have to stop pumping is the PC walls.

Post by **Crashdummy** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:14 pm

For getting open the FF I took a screwdriver, heated it over the stove in my kitchen, and worked it over the pump cap, cutting it in two. I found that to wark well without seriously ruining the look of the gun.

Post by **isoaker** » Mon Jul 11, 2005 8:17 pm

The pump cap as usual (maybe more in this case) is a serious pain to remove. Still trying.. otherwise, she's open.

Edit: a little more prying, forcing, and plastic ripping, the pump cap has been partially split, but now the casing is open.

Post by **isoaker** » Tue Jul 12, 2005 8:10 am

Update: well, I opened up my Flash Flood, strapped a rubber band around the loose/sagging part of the Max-D trigger system, and closed it up. While I took a bunch of pics of the internals, I forgot to take one of my rubber-band-repair! Doh! I'll need to open her up again slightly to take more pics.

In the end, the nozzle definitely closes, but I'm not fully content with the repair. Sure, it works, but the trigger is now a lot harder to pull (wasn't great to begin with) and I'm not sure how long that rubber band will actually stay in place. After seeing the internal set up, I'm planning on finding some smaller rubber bands to add on one at a time to increase tension as opposed to using a large rubber band wrapped around a few times which didn't allow me any flexibility on how many times to wrap (any less and it wouldn't be short enough to apply any force to close the nozzle valve).

Once I'm content with the full repair, I'll post up pics and a little guide as well. I also plan on re-inforcing the Flash Flood nozzle's trigger as well while I'm at it.

Post by **freak** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 9:38 am

How did you get the nozzle cap off? ???

Post by **freak** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 10:30 am

My flash floods big trigger valve is stuck open.I need to now how to repair it.

Post by **isoaker** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 11:46 am

For a temp-fix, it may close after a little while of waiting. Mine had sometimes stuck open awhile, especially on humid days.

For a more permanent fix, you'll need to open your Flash Flood and add on some elastic bands or a better spring onto the Max-D trigger assembly. I'll try to post up pics of the valve-assembly. Opening up the Flash Flood is mostly easy except for the pump-cap part which is a pain to separate.

Post by **freak** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:19 pm

thanks!

Post by **isoaker** » Thu Jul 21, 2005 3:49 pm

As shown in the image above, the Flash Flood Max-D trigger spring is circled in red. This spring is what allows the Max-D trigger to snap open and closed, but it also seems to be the weakest part of the design. The springs on the Flash Flood appear to be less resilient, losing their ability to pull with enough force after multiple uses, thus resulting in valves being stuck open. Well, it's either the spring or the ball valve, itself, loses lubrication, becoming too stiff for the valve to be rotated by the spring.

Unfortunately, I don't have a pic of my repair job I did on the other Flash Flood trigger valve (closed it already and don't want to open it yet unless it fails again

). All I had done was to strap around a rubber band to give the spring some assistance in pulling. I tested the trigger a few times before closing the shell to verify the rubber band wouldn't come off too easily and that it still worked. Sadly, I forgot to take a pic. Oh well...

Hope this pic helps you out if you go for opening up your soaker.

Post by **Some Guy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:27 am

IF by nozzle cap you mean the orange things on the outside in front of the nozzles you just take them out of their little grooves.

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Post by **isoaker** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:41 am

How did you get the nozzle cap off?

There is no need to remove the nozzle caps before splitting apart the casing. However, the pump-cap is a completely different story. While I managed to force mine apart, there was a good amount of damage done to that plastic cap in the process. They (the manufacturing plant) really did a good job gluing that thing on tightly.

Post by **Some Guy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:46 am

That's kind of strange... On both of mine they were pretty easy to get off. Could it be possible that they have different marks already?

Post by **Lt.Winters** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:08 pm

where could i buy the spring?

Post by **Some Guy** » Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:50 pm

You use rubberbands instead

Post by **Lt.Winters** » Sat Jul 23, 2005 2:18 am

How would I put it on? What size?

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