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by Lt.Winters » Sat Jul 23, 2005 7:38 pm
How would i go about opening the FF up? Last time I did it with my XP 240, but the pump cap thingy broke.
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by isoaker » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:16 pm
^ Please avoid posting after yourself on the same day in a thread, especially when you can use the 'Edit' button to add on thoughts to a post. Thanks!
As for rubber bands, you'd need to either loop a larger one around a few times or look for ones a little shorter than the spring so that it can pull on the lever. The rubber bands would be placed similarly to how the spring is mounted (there are small plastic clips that hold the spring and can be used to hold a few rubber bands as well).
As for opening up the Flash Flood, the pump cap is the most troubling area. After unscrewing all the screws and separating the case as much as possible, the pump-cap part is usually the only troubling section. Some prying and pulling can snap the glue that bonds it to the case. However, from my own experience, I ended up doing damage to the pump cap. At worst, the pump cap can be removed altogether and the soaker will still function (though you'd need to be a little more careful not to pull the pump shaft out when pumping). Some have also used heat to cut the pump-cap in half. Just be careful not to damage any internals when opening things and/or using heat to assist.
Sidenote: similar threads regarding the Flash Flood's trigger mechanisms have now been merged.

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by Lt.Winters » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:25 pm
Sorry!
So I wound need to cut it, how would i cut it I got neither the tools or the skillzz. My dad ain't a handy man either. He would also go comepletly against opening blasters (becasue he thinks it'll break). Sorry if I'm asking too many questions.
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by isoaker » Sat Jul 23, 2005 8:44 pm
Well, let's put it this way: if your Flash Flood's trigger is stuck open, your soaker IS broken. You may end up breaking it more if you make a mistake during the opening process, but if it's already broken, soakers rarely repair themselves.
I opened by Flash Flood using a couple of screw drivers (to get all the screws out and to gently pry apart the casing where it is glued). The pump cap, though, was a pain. To split it open, I ended up slowly opening the casing, using a book to wedge the casing apart and hold it at a fixed width to give added pressure to split the pump cap. The cap began to tear (the tear line is actually also visible in the picture above as a lighter/white-line along the front edge of the pump cap). After a good amount of the cap had ripped (though it was still rather well glued), I ended up grabbing one side of the shell and twisting it with respect to the other side, adding more stress onto the pump-cap area. After a little work, the glue ended up tearing and the casing came free. It likely wasn't the most elegant way to get the cap off, but it worked.
In the end, you just need to experiment. However, if you're doing more forceful things, I'd recommend having some eye protection in case you end up suddenly popping plastic and sending bits of things flying is parts snap.
As with everything, opening soakers well just takes pateince and practice. You're dealing with a broken soaker so worrying about breaking it is a moot point.
I'd only recommend not attempting a repair if you can still return/exchange it for a new one.

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by Lt.Winters » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:28 am
i thought of buying two FF's one for 'dissecting' and another one for backup, but it's like 30 bucks each. So is the only problem with the FF is the one listed above or is there more? And is it possible to return a blaster that's already outside it's package (box)?
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by Lt.Winters » Sun Jul 24, 2005 1:28 am
i thought of buying two FF's one for 'dissecting' and another one for backup, but it's like 30 bucks each. So is the only problem with the FF is the one listed above or is there more? And is it possible to return a blaster that's already outside it's package (box)?
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by isoaker » Sun Jul 24, 2005 9:25 am
The main problems with the Flash Flood seems to be trigger-sticking issues. I don't recall hearing any other operating problems.
As for returning open blasters, most stores will accept a soaker that's been opened for exchange (you can't test a soaker in its package for leaks!
). However, if you've opened the blaster, itself, chances are you've now voided any return policy and most stores wouldn't accept it for refund or exchange.
If your Flash Floods have no problems and you fear breaking them when opening them, I wouldn't recommend opening unless you're also willing to take the chance you may do damage to the soaker, especially being the first time you're opening a soaker. I only open soakers that have either broken on me or that I feel willing to sacrifice, knowing full well that I may potentially have difficulty getting it back together if I make a mistake.

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by Lt.Winters » Sun Jul 24, 2005 11:31 am
My 3rd time excluding this, hopefully they'll be on discount so I'll get two
Thanks for your help and info BTW!!
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by emperor_james » Sun Jul 24, 2005 6:30 pm
The soakertag line is really sturdier than the older guns, except of course for the triggers. I'm not sure why the triggers are so prone to breaking, I have never had any trouble with the original Max-D triggers.
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by Lt.Winters » Sun Jul 24, 2005 7:35 pm
Well, I was out today trying to find a FF. I looked at Wal-Mart, Toys"R"us, and Zellers but I found nothing other than Triple A's, sheild blasters and copied guns of the CPS 1500!!!!! It seems that they'res no STE '05 blasters in my area.
Anyways, is the rubberband solution temporary?
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by isoaker » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:26 pm
Anyways, is the rubberband solution temporary?
That just really depends how well you put on the rubber band.
I'm still looking for a source of springs that can be used to replace or strengthen the ones on the Max-D triggers.

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by Lt.Winters » Sun Jul 24, 2005 8:30 pm
is the FF fragile? Say you accidently sliped and your FF hit the ground or if it got sand in it, would it be a real pain just trying to fix?
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