Max Infusion Aqua Pak Problem - Sonething weird

Post by **SharpObjects** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:32 pm

I went to TRU today to see what they had (AS, FF, Oozinators, Crickets etc). I bought myself the aqua pack to go with my FF. I filled it up and attached it to my FF with little difficulty. I pumped and fired for quite a while, it lasted a long time. When the pak ran low on water, I noticed that my FFs tank started to squeeze itself inwards because of the pressure (not exploding, but imploding sort of) I quickly removed the pak and the tank slowly returned to its normal unsqueezed state, unharmed. Why did this happen?

~SO

Post by **m15399** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 6:59 pm

Make sure there is an opening in the cap of the pak. Sometimes that happens with soakertag caps. They just don't let in enough air. Try drilling or punching a hole in the aquapak.

Post by **SharpObjects** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 7:51 pm

How big of a hole? a very small pinhole maybe?

~SO

Post by **m15399** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 8:20 pm

1/8" or so, doeesn't matter as long as air can come in freely. I'm not sure that will work,though. I don't know much about the connection to the soaker.

Post by **Soaker Master** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 5:34 pm

It started coming inwards! I better keep a good eye on it when i'm using it with my aquapack(when I get it). It has not happened yet though with my Overload backpack.

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Post by **LtDan64** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:36 pm

hmm... the cap on the aquapack is snap, right? (as opposed to screwing closed) (Correct me if I'm wrong, please.) So it would seem that leaving the cap partially open is not an option. The physics, SharpObjects, is that you are creating a vacuum in the pack. Think of sucking the air out of a soda bottle. Anyway, if some air could be allowed in, the pack wouldn't implode. I guess loosening the connection to your blaster would prolly just make you leak water. If it doesn't though, maybe that is the answer. It would let air back into the pack. I dunno, I wouldn't be crazy about poking a hole in my pack, but it might be the only solution. Then again, does the implosion seem to hurt the pack, or interfere with using it or your blaster? Maybe it's not such a big deal...

EDIT: omg, I'm a noob. Next time I will read a bit more thoroughly. I thought you were talking about the pack shrinking. The tank itself?! THAT, I would worry about. But, in that case, i would just say loosen the fill cap on the FF just a hair. I'm thinking that oughta do it.

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Post by **SharpObjects** » Fri Mar 31, 2006 4:15 pm

Well, I just thought I'd let everyone know that figured out what the problem was. Apparently, after you attach the pak to the cap, you need to unscrew the cap about a 1/4 turn (I think, it might have been 1/2) to let air in. I guess that is why it pays to read the directions on the package.

D'oh!

~SO :blues:

Post by **LtDan64** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:20 pm

HA! I was right! (Once I bothered re-reading your post to determine your actual problem...

Post by **Hannibal** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:33 pm

What I don't understand is why the water should have any tendency to leave the AquaPak at all. You would think it would just stay in the pack. Or does the weight of the water force it through the tube?

I'll be getting the new FF and an Aquapak at Target (they said they would get the 2006 Super Soakers in two weeks), not because I particually want them, but because I have a Target giftcard and some Hasbro coupons and see no reason to let them go to waste. Unless, of course, there happened to be a WW gun there. That would change things.

Post by **SharpObjects** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 4:26 pm

Its strange, it will only go to the soaker if you are holding the blaster below it, so I suppose gravity does all the work. If you hold it below too long, water will spill out, so take care not to over fill it.

~SO

Post by **Dacca** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:07 am

actually, when you pump the water out of the tank it creates a vaccume (i hate spelling that word :p ) which in normal cases is replaced with air. when the aquapack is added the vaccume in the tank is still there only this force pulls water from the aqua pack rather then from anywhere else. this is the same way that other back pack blasters work.

Post by **Hannibal** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:55 pm

Really. But if there is an air hole, then it wouldn't form a vacuum. I'm not sure I understand.

Post by **Dacca** » Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:33 am

it allows air to enter the aqua pack easier. its kinda like the air needs to enter the pack to 'push' the water into the blaster. another way to discribe it is that something has to fill the space the water leave behind.

Post by **Croc** » Mon Apr 10, 2006 8:19 pm

by the way... if you are going to be putting the aqua pack on your flash flood (like me) you will want to put the piece in about 90 degrees from where you want it to actually be. I currently have no problems with my MI flash flood and aqua pack, but Dacca is right about the vaccuum created by the water gun. It creates a small vaccuum, just like the SS60 (the water collecting mech. is the same style) and then pumps it into the reservoir. Without the vaccuum, the gun would just not work. If you put a hole in the aquapack, the pack probably wont work anymore.

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